Yamaha Owners Club: more power - Yamaha Owners Club

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

more power down pipes

#1 User is offline   waynemorris 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 18
  • Joined: 27-October 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:manchester
  • Interests:ridein out on my bike and buyin and sellin bikes


  • Bikes:fzr 400 r exup. gpz 500. gsxf 400. gs 500 e

Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:32 AM

hi could some one tell me if the down pipes of an fzr600 will fit on an fzr400 exup. i am hopeing it would give me more power. thanks
0

#2 User is offline   Cy Welch 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 312
  • Joined: 19-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sacramento, CA, USA


  • Bikes:1980 Yamaha XS400G
    1980 Yamaha XS1100G

Posted 31 October 2009 - 12:47 AM

View Postwaynemorris, on 29 October 2009 - 12:32 AM, said:

hi could some one tell me if the down pipes of an fzr600 will fit on an fzr400 exup. i am hopeing it would give me more power. thanks


Don't matter, even if they fit (which they probably don't) they won't give you any more power.
I am not fat. I get heavier because I absorb more and more information as I get older, this is stored around my waist, as my head got to small to contain it. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
0

#3 User is offline   drewpy 

  • what if................
  • View gallery
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 3,820
  • Joined: 23-November 03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Manchester, UK
  • Interests:scouting, Bikes, Jiggy Jiggy!!


  • Bikes:1978 XS400
    Still building XS400 flat-tracker

Posted 31 October 2009 - 06:06 PM

power was revealed to me the day I held aloft my magic sword and said...

I AM THE POWER!!!............but my bike didn't have the power <_<
Cocaine is never a solution. Unless of course,
you dissolve it in water.
0

#4 User is offline   waynemorris 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 18
  • Joined: 27-October 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:manchester
  • Interests:ridein out on my bike and buyin and sellin bikes


  • Bikes:fzr 400 r exup. gpz 500. gsxf 400. gs 500 e

Posted 31 October 2009 - 07:41 PM

View PostCy Welch, on 31 October 2009 - 12:47 AM, said:

Don't matter, even if they fit (which they probably don't) they won't give you any more power.

ok cheerz mate thats all i wanted to know realy. i myt aswel just gas flow the head on it then and see how it runs then. do uno wether the 400 exup runs any beter with the exup valve on because the cables av snapd and i av just tied the valve open on the exhauste
0

#5 User is offline   Cynic 

  • Smoke?, Castrol R thanks.
  • Group: Professional
  • Posts: 1,135
  • Joined: 29-August 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Middle of middle England
  • Interests:Bikes, engines is there anything else.....


  • Bikes:Currently
    Yamaha Dt175mx (81) owned 21yrs
    TDR250 (88)

Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:09 PM

View Postwaynemorris, on 31 October 2009 - 07:41 PM, said:

ok cheerz mate thats all i wanted to know realy. i myt aswel just gas flow the head on it then and see how it runs then. do uno wether the 400 exup runs any beter with the exup valve on because the cables av snapd and i av just tied the valve open on the exhauste


So all the delicate technology that has gone into that 400 which in the right hands will more than likely ace the 600 and possibly the 750 on the right track, you talk about precise head work which will involve some patient carb mods to really finess. And then ask if the EXUP valve makes any difference cos your cables are knackerd and you have just tied it open.

Struth.
Sometimes your the pigeon, sometimes your the statue.
0

#6 User is offline   drewpy 

  • what if................
  • View gallery
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 3,820
  • Joined: 23-November 03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Manchester, UK
  • Interests:scouting, Bikes, Jiggy Jiggy!!


  • Bikes:1978 XS400
    Still building XS400 flat-tracker

Posted 03 November 2009 - 06:58 PM

View PostCynic, on 03 November 2009 - 01:09 PM, said:

So all the delicate technology that has gone into that 400 which in the right hands will more than likely ace the 600 and possibly the 750 on the right track, you talk about precise head work which will involve some patient carb mods to really finess. And then ask if the EXUP valve makes any difference cos your cables are knackerd and you have just tied it open.

Struth.


:lol::lol::lol:
Cocaine is never a solution. Unless of course,
you dissolve it in water.
0

#7 User is offline   cloudy 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 02-November 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stornoway
  • Interests:Things that go fast


  • Bikes:Aprilia RS 50
    Aprilia RS 125
    Yamaha FZR 400 3tj

Posted 04 November 2009 - 03:33 AM

if youre doing work that serious, and your exup valve isnt working, maybe you'd be just as well getting stainless downpipes.
id imagine they'd be the most likely exhaust system to give you a bit more beans in the high revs.
personally id stick to the exup valve, bike doesnt run too well in the low revs without it. thats what its for, smooth power delivery.
0-fast in about 5 seconds
0

#8 User is offline   waynemorris 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 18
  • Joined: 27-October 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:manchester
  • Interests:ridein out on my bike and buyin and sellin bikes


  • Bikes:fzr 400 r exup. gpz 500. gsxf 400. gs 500 e

Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:13 AM

View Postcloudy, on 04 November 2009 - 03:33 AM, said:

if youre doing work that serious, and your exup valve isnt working, maybe you'd be just as well getting stainless downpipes.
id imagine they'd be the most likely exhaust system to give you a bit more beans in the high revs.
personally id stick to the exup valve, bike doesnt run too well in the low revs without it. thats what its for, smooth power delivery.

im gonna get a new cable for my valve because it spluterin at 3000 rpm wile am ridein round town. nice1 cloudy il take your word for it pal
0

#9 User is offline   waynemorris 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 18
  • Joined: 27-October 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:manchester
  • Interests:ridein out on my bike and buyin and sellin bikes


  • Bikes:fzr 400 r exup. gpz 500. gsxf 400. gs 500 e

Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:19 AM

View PostCynic, on 03 November 2009 - 01:09 PM, said:

So all the delicate technology that has gone into that 400 which in the right hands will more than likely ace the 600 and possibly the 750 on the right track, you talk about precise head work which will involve some patient carb mods to really finess. And then ask if the EXUP valve makes any difference cos your cables are knackerd and you have just tied it open.

Struth.

na my down pipes are a lil fkd so isted of getin 400 1s i 4t i mite awel get 600 1s if thay fitd n it mite giv me a lil bit more power. my valve woz fkd wen i bought n a jst tied it open n bint fink it wud mater but as i can c it dus.
0

#10 User is offline   Cynic 

  • Smoke?, Castrol R thanks.
  • Group: Professional
  • Posts: 1,135
  • Joined: 29-August 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Middle of middle England
  • Interests:Bikes, engines is there anything else.....


  • Bikes:Currently
    Yamaha Dt175mx (81) owned 21yrs
    TDR250 (88)

Posted 04 November 2009 - 01:09 PM

From what i understand of the 400, its the best of the bunch. The 600 is pretty much a 400 with a big motor in it which is compromised by air filter volume and exhaust routing.

A 400 that is designed to work with something like the exup valve is going to ride like a lazy 2 stroke till it comes on cam, probably at something like 9-10 thousand rpm. The bike without the exup and a fubar'd exhaust is going to run rough as old bolts. But the harmonics of the engine with the RPM ceiling of ? 14/15thousand rpm will be all wrong with a 600 pipe.

Get the bike running like it is supposed to, with the exhaust patched up and the exup working and with the extra torque that you get the bike may feel a bit quicker but will be a lot better across the box.
Sometimes your the pigeon, sometimes your the statue.
0

#11 User is offline   waynemorris 

  • Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 18
  • Joined: 27-October 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:manchester
  • Interests:ridein out on my bike and buyin and sellin bikes


  • Bikes:fzr 400 r exup. gpz 500. gsxf 400. gs 500 e

Posted 04 November 2009 - 04:50 PM

View PostCynic, on 04 November 2009 - 01:09 PM, said:

From what i understand of the 400, its the best of the bunch. The 600 is pretty much a 400 with a big motor in it which is compromised by air filter volume and exhaust routing.

A 400 that is designed to work with something like the exup valve is going to ride like a lazy 2 stroke till it comes on cam, probably at something like 9-10 thousand rpm. The bike without the exup and a fubar'd exhaust is going to run rough as old bolts. But the harmonics of the engine with the RPM ceiling of ? 14/15thousand rpm will be all wrong with a 600 pipe.

Get the bike running like it is supposed to, with the exhaust patched up and the exup working and with the extra torque that you get the bike may feel a bit quicker but will be a lot better across the box.

kk will do. il c how she runs with the valve wrkin as it shud do. asoom as i get her all sortd il let uno how its runin.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic